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Subject: Re: republic article on libertarian's who must pay back clean election funds 
From: "Jason Auvenshine" <lpaz-info@cox.net>  Add to Contacts  
Date: - Wed, Apr 30 2003 10:37:47 AM0700 
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Thanks for the links.  We put out a press release on Monday stating that the
party took money from the clean elections candidates but it was the former
chair who is no longer on the board.  The press release is below:


THE SO-CALLED "CLEAN ELECTIONS" SYSTEM IS INHERENTLY DIRTY



A statement from Jason Auvenshine, Chairman of the Arizona Libertarian
Party, on "Declare Your Independence with Ernest Hancock" 7am - 9am on
AM1310, 4/28/03



There have been many responses to the East Valley Tribune story that came
out on Friday concerning three Libertarian candidates accused of misusing
so-called "clean elections" money.  People have lamented the fact that under
Arizona law political parties cannot control their candidates.  All of that
is quite true, but there is a little more to this story than just that.  The
officers of political parties are also selected via a derivative of the
exact same primary election system used to select candidates, and this gives
rise to some of the same problems illustrated by the situation discussed in
Friday's Tribune.



Specifically, during the 2002 campaign season four clean elections
candidates, including the three candidates mentioned in the Tribune article,
sent the Arizona Libertarian Party a total of $6,000.  The party added
another $4,000 of other party funds and sent the total of $10,000 for voter
registration services to the same Nevada firm mentioned in the article.



Why would the Libertarian Party accept "clean elections" money from
candidates, even to pay for voter registration services, when the party has
so clearly opposed the very existence of the so-called "clean elections"
program in the past?  The simple answer is that this was done solely because
the former party chairman decided to do it.  There was not a meeting of the
Libertarian Party members, or even the party's board, where it was decided.
There has been no change in the party's opposition to the Clean Elections
program.  The former party chairman did not run for re-election this year
and is not on the Libertarian Party's current board.



There are two very important lessons to be learned from all of this.  First:
Both the officers of political parties and their candidates are selected
according to a system that is dictated by the State of Arizona -- a system
that insures a certain level of political acumen, but little else.  Second:
Public money programs like "Clean Elections" always act as a corrupting
influence on anything they touch.  They are poison, and the only way not to
get sick is to stay away from them altogether.  That is my personal policy.



The story of these candidates gets noticed, as well it should, primarily
because Libertarians have always opposed programs that use money stolen from
taxpayers to fund some politician's pet initiative.  The ridiculously
misnamed "Clean Elections" program is just such a government boondoggle,
resulting in the exact opposite of its stated goals.  That doesn't change
simply because certain individuals, chosen under a state-dictated system
with the label "Libertarian", chose to accept some of the clean election
funds.  As the current chairman of the Arizona Libertarian Party, I
reiterate the party's longstanding position that the so-called Clean
Elections program should not exist.  I call for the immediate and total
repeal of the Clean Elections program, and pledge to work towards it with
anyone who shares this goal, from any party.



The Arizona Libertarian Party can be reached at:

4802 E. Ray Rd. #23-255

Phoenix, AZ 85044

(602) 248-8425






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Subject: republic article on libertarian's who must pay back clean election
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> the arizona republic ran an article on monday about
> the 3 tempe libertarians who took the clean election
> money and have to pay it back.
>
> in the printed version it didnt mention that the canidates
> were LIBERTARIANS. it did mention their names as yuri downing,
> trevor clevenger, and paul dedonati.
>
> 3 versions of the online article exist they are at:
>
>
> http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/local/articles/0430cleanelect
> ions30.html
>     http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0430cleanelections30.html
>     http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0429Elections-ON.html
>
> mike
>
> ps - i think being honest 100% with the media is best.
>      if you lie they will probably find out about it.
>      since these jokers did give the libertarian party
>      a few thousand bucks i think its just good to be
>      honest and fess up to it.
>
>      say the old people namely the smorg took the money, but
>      the new people are against it.
>
>      i think this is also a reason to vote that the party
>      WILL NOT support any canidate who takes clean election
>      money. if people take the money like these guys did we
>      should be able to say the libertarian party is against
>      it because it violates our principles of taking stole
>      tax money.
>
>      i remember that passing at the Maricopa County Libertarian
>      party meeting, but i dont remember it passing at the
>      state convention.
>
>      just my 2 cents.
>
>
> When the government fears the people, that is LIBERTY.
> When people fear the government, that is TYRANNY.
>
> Thomas Jefferson
 

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